Episode 194: zkEVM with Jordi & David from Hermez

This week, Anna chats with Jordi Baylina and David Schwartz from Hermez about their zkEVM design that was first revealed at EthCC. Jordi and David explain the design choices such as why they push for recreating the EVM, how it’s done at a technical level and how Hermez’s approach is different from other zk teams like Matter Labs and StarkWare.

The original recording was done before the news of the merger with Polygon came out, so the trio came back together for a brief chat about what it means and how the zk space evolved in the past three years!

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Episode 277: Nova and Beyond with Srinath Setty

In today’s episode, Anna Rose and Nico Mohnblatt interview Srinath Setty, Principal Researcher at Microsoft Research and author of notable works such as Spartan, Nova, SuperNova, and HyperNova. This discussion covers Setty’s early work and how this led to him working on SNARKs, folding schemes and sumcheck protocols, as well as his views on the future trajectory of the ZK space.

Given the current chatter around Nova-style accumulation schemes, this interview offers a chance to explore the perspective of a key contributor behind these developments.

Episode 276: Expanding Computation on Ethereum with Axiom

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Episode 275: Building in Public with Sandy & Ye from Scroll

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Episode 272: The Move into Web3 with Aptos’ Avery Ching

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Episode 271: Between Two ZK Events with Nico and Guillermo

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