Episode 151: John Adler on Optimistic vs ZK Rollup and the data availability problem

In this episode, we chat with John Adler – co-founder of Lazy Ledger (now Celestia) and Fuel Labs. We compare Optimistic Rollups and ZK Rollups as well as discuss how Ethereum, specifically Eth1, could look over the next few years. We also talk about the data availability challenge in blockchains and how Lazy Ledger aims to solve this.

Relevant links can be found here:
James Prestwich's thread on Scalability vs Throughput myths
The LazyLedger academic paper
Security analysis of ORU from Fuel
What would a rollup-centric ethereum roadmap look like?
Video: “Scaling Ethereum in 2020 and Beyond” – Vitalik Buterin
Some additional thoughts from John on Eth1


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